politics. paul ryan has a lot of juice as the 2012 presidential. and marco rubio gave more than 70 speeches for romney over the last campaign year. last year both openly joked together about hitting the trail early in 2016, livin'. >> i will see you at the reunion. table for two. good diners in new hampshire or iowa? [ laughter ] >> paul, thank you four invitation for lunch in iowa and new hampshire. but i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. >> marco rubio standing up for sowrk which votes third in the nominating process after iowa and new hampshire. the election was just a month ago. the president has not yet been reinaugurated and rubio has already actually been to iowa where he acknowledged all the talk about him running and actually joked that he will not be a candidate for coach at iowa state, harris. >> okay. i'm glad he cleared that up. carl. i understand they got very serious and talked about the future of the republic party. >> they did. and that also refers to their own political future as white house candidate. rubio he spoke at lengths abou

. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it sort of feels like 2008 reversed, right, except for experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and the youth and this sort of idealism might perhaps come from a rubio or ryan on the republican side? >> well, if i look at that poll you were referring to, hillary clinton is the overwhelming favorite among young people, especially young women. young people and young women, clearly they're going to help determine future elections. look, i think paul ryan and marco rubio, are trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and, perhaps, big ideas and a larger goalpost. i want to also say this because i have to say this as vice chair of the party. as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad base, including

foundation is having a party and marco rubio is speaking. paul ryan is speaking. they both want to have complete makeovers. you know -- marco rubio doesn't want to be the hispanic guy who talks about immigration. and paul ryan doesn't want to be the grinch that stole medicare. paul ryan is standing there right now. what do you think? are these guys going to succeed? are they the future? >> if i was paul ryan, i would want to be something else. if i was selected vice president and i got slaughtered in my -- and my candidate got slaughtered in my home state, i would be looking to have a makeover also. i don't blame him. i think that senator rubio could run on anything he wants. i agree. if he wants to run on economic expertise, perceived economic expertise, it's a good thing for him to do it. he should do that. it's apparently what he believed before. if he wants to change his mind, that's his business too. i don't fault any of these guys. and 2016, the political commentators, the more politics, the better it is. >> looks like we're starting tonight, james ryan. >> yeah, all for it. he's

you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are speeches where they're trying to define who they are. how would a rubio ryan stack up against clinton? it sort of feels like 2008 reversed except experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and youth might come from rubio or ryan on the republican side. >> clinton is a favorite among young people, especially young women. they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and perhaps big ideas and a larger goal post. but i want to say this because i have to say this as vice chair of the party. as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad and deep base including vice president biden, who's done a terrific job in his capacity as the second in command, but also, we have governors. a lot of diversity. duval patrick and we can all look as governor cuomo, you have elizabeth warren that might be considered presidential. so i don't want to throw all our eggs

immigrants as president bush was doing. >> bret: marco rubio talks about that all the time. >> marco rubio talks about that. when it comes to, you know, illegal imgrants, the 12 million people here, it's important to remember that california with 55 delegates to -- electoral votes. sorry. actually used to be a red state. until there was an anti-immigrant backlash which led to prop 187, which banned illegal immigrants from health and education. that was ultimately overturned. from then on, that was a democratic state. i think that proposals like self-deportation, which hit home to families here even if you are here legally. the idea that your friends or family might have to go home, wait in line, and maybe never come back, that hits home. i think that is viewed as a hostile act. you have to get past that. personally, i would like to go to the day of john mccain in 2007 and look for a pathway to citizenship. if that is too far for the party, then look at the things like to new kay bailey hutchison legislation, which would make a pathway for young immigrants. >> bret: tucker? >> actually, californi

, former running mate paul ryan and surrogate marco rubio the florida u.s. senator are openly joking about and already testing message for the 2016 g.o.p. race for the presidential nomination. >> see you at the reunion dinner, table for two. do you know any diners in iowa? >> thank you for your invitation in iowa and new hampshire. i will not stand by and watch people of south carolina ignored. >> rubio received the second annual jack kemp foundation award last night. ryan a kemp protege received the first award last year. ryan mentioned fighting poverty 15 times last year and distanced himself from the romney infamous remark of the 47% who don't pay federal income taxes. >> both parties tend to divide americans to our voters and their voters. let's be clear. republicans must steer far clear of that crap. >> rubio emphasizeed expanding the g.o.p. big tent and describing voters will determine the future of the country and the g.o.p. >> it all starts with our people. in the kitchen of our hotel and landscaping crews that work in the neighborhood, late night janitorial shifts that clean our o

should of one the general election, whether it was delaware, or supporting marco rubio early against charlie crist. the other unwritten stories that you have two major conservative figures leaving this week. you had big armey leaving freedomworks, a very conservative outfit aligned with the tea party, and getting, get this, and $8 million buyout. jim demint has a net worth -- average of $41,000. he is going to institution that pays its chief executive more than $1 million. armey-demint -- if the congregationalist. they came to do good and they're doing very well. [laughter] >> with him leaving the senate and going to the heritage foundation, the intellectual level of both places lifts up. now -- you got it. >> yeah, i got it. >> remember, heritage was the originator of the mandate for health insurance. >> he said that we spend too much time concentrating on obama and not our own positions, don't forget that it was demint who said in 2000 and that if we stop him on health care, this will be his waterloo, we will break him. he failed to do that. he has been a very partisan die

his weight behind marco rubio in the republican primary for florida's senate race. despite the fact that the national republican senatorial committee and republican leader mitch mcconnell endorsed charlie crist in that race. marco rubio went on to win that primary and that senate seat. demint also backed rand paul in his primary. that was a fight, by the way, that took place in mcconnell's home state of kentucky and mcconnell endorsed the other guy. the not rand paul. but paul won. he won his senate race in kentucky which was deeply humiliating for mitch mcconnell. but demint has also backed a lot of candidates who won their primaries but did not go on to win their general elections. like christine "i am not a witch" o'donnell if you remember her. demint backed the not a witch candidate and she lost big time. he backed todd aiken of the legitimate rape comments and mourdock of the other rape comments. the reason jim demint isn't in the majority today is because of jim demint. but jim demint says he's okay with that. >> i'd rather have 30 republicans in the senate who believe in the

republican party, marco rubio and 0 paul ryan outlining their visions for the future of the gop. what it means and what it means for 2016 and beyond. what does former rick perry think about awful this. the texas governor here to talk about that and the possibility of his state going blue. nice to have you on set. he says it's not going to happen. we'll talk about it in a second. >> announcer: 'tis the season mo g out... and along with it, more identity theft.is holiday n is over, an estimated 1.2 million identities may be stolen. every time you pull out your wallet, shop online or hit the road, you give thieves a chance to ruin your holiday. by the time you're done watching this, as many as 40 more identities may be stolen. you can't be on the lookout 24/7, but lifelock can. they're relentless about protecting your identity every minute of every day. when someone tries to take over your bank accounts, drain the equity in your home, or even tries to buy a car in your name, lifelock is on guard. and with lifelock's 24/7 alerts, they contact you by text, phone or email as soon as they detec

. our problem is that he is a bad president. [cheers] >> bill: factor exclusive senator marco rubio in his first post election interview. he is now emerging as one of the leaders of the republic party. also tonight, dennis miller on paying higher taxes. and charlie brown kicked to the cush -- curb in arkansas by a pastor. >> everything i do turns into a disaster. >> oh, good grief. >> bill: caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone, the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. no talking points memo this evening because we have two very important interviews to conduct here. in just a few moments senator marco rubio in first post election chat and boy do i have some questions for him. first the lead story, bob costas as we reported last night the nbc sportscaster has created a storm of confusion. last sunday night during a national football game, he delivered a commentary at halftime condemning what he calls the gun culture in america. some folks got angry because they felt costas was attacking the second amendment. mr. costas denie

you for having us this night. congratulations to marco. [applause] >> now senator marco rubio was honoree he discussed policy recommendations he believes that will help all families regardless of class. this is about 35 minutes.i am o. i want to talk a lot about that. has inspired me. a couple of people i do want to [applause] i cannot think of anything more dinner. thank you for your invitation to lunch. [laughter] very few people believed i could[laughter] of 10. paul ryan was one of the only [applause] kemp right now. him are. economic challenges and currently faces. vibrant american middle class a vibrant middle class. in the history of the world, american middle class. make it to the middle class. today, there is this growing opportunity gap developing. millions of americans worry they may never achieve middle- class and i, one of the fundamental challenges is to find an appropriate and sustainable role for government. the key to a vibrant middle families and enjoy leisure time, save for retirement, and pay for education so they can grow up earning more than their parents. th

congressman tom perriello, center for american progress, joining us next. >>> paul ryan and marco rubio try to reinvent themselves as the warriors for the middle class. buy it? i'll ask congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz if their actions match up with their rhetoric. that's coming up. >>> and the gop's attempt to create an alternate reality seems to be working. find out what almost half of republicans believe about a.c.o.r.n. and the 2012 election later in the hour. share your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter using #edshow. we are coming right back. mark. [ female announcer ] one drop of ultra dawn has twice the everyday grease cleaning ingredients of one drop of the leading non-concentrated brand... to clean 2x more greasy dishes. dawn does more. so it's not a chore. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. now, let's put this all into context here. fiscal cliff negotiations, don't you think they would proceed a lot faster and smoother if both sides were really dealing with reality? but, you see, the republicans, they simply are not. house speaker john

day. >>> paul ryan and marco rubio try to reinvent themselves as the warriors for the middle class. buy it? i'll ask congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz if their actions match up with their rhetoric. that's coming up. >>> and the gop's attempt to create an alternate reality seems to be working. find out what almost half of republicans believe about a.c.o.r.n. and the 2012 election later in the hour. share your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter using #edshow. we are coming right back. if we want to improve our schools... ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. now, let's put this all into context here. fiscal cliff negotiations, don't you think they would proceed a lot faster and smoother if both sides were really dealing with reality?

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election, orn, supporting marco rubio early against charlie crist. the other hd written story is that you have two majo conservative figures leaving this week. you had dick armey leaving freedomworks, a very conservative outfit aligned with the tea party, and getting an $8 million buyouout. jim demint has gone fr the fourth poorest man in the senate's an institution, the heritage foundation, and more than $1 million. armey-demint --- they are like the congregationalist in hawaii. they came to do good, and they're doing very well. [laughter] >> with him leaving the senate and going to the hetage foundation, i think the intellectual level both places lifts up. now -- you got it. >> yeah, i got it. >> remember, heritage was the originator of the idea of the federal mandate for health insurance. >> he said we spend too much time concentrating on o obama and not our positions. don't forget that it was jim demint in 2009 who said that if we stop him on health care, this will be his waterloo. we will break him. he faid to do that. he has been a very partisan guy his whole time in the senate. >>

honor marco rubio. this is under a half hour. >> good evening. i have the distinct pleasure of introducing our keynote speaker. i am the president of the center for enterprise. and a jack kemp groupie. jack kemp worked with me for five years to help residents in public housing. there was a conference. bill observed, when liberals see poor people, they see a sea of victims. conservatives see poor people and see a sea of aliens. jack kemp and paul ryan are the exceptions. toward the end of the campaign, paul's staff called me and said, paul really wants to talk out on an anti-poverty agenda. could you organize an event in ohio that would bring the leaders from around the state who have experience transforming not only lives but also revitalizing neighborhoods. i identified 20 people and sent him to hit -- send them to his staff. they had to be vetted and secret service looked over the list of names. i got this call from paul's staff that says, three other people -- three people out of the can you send me had criminal records. i said, i am shocked. i thought all of them had crimin

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box, it's the packaging. look what he did with marco rubio. a perfect study of what jim demint specializes in. you say to latinos, look at this guy. he's brown like you. but when he starts to speak, he has to say the same doctrine script and say party line. he has to be against the dream act. marco rubio was for privatizing social security. he's for all the same stuff that the american people over and over again have rejected ideawise, but he can put it in a nicer package. that's what jim demint has been trying to say. >> how do you say self-deportation in spanish? >> i don't think there's a term for it. >> i won't go there. but i think to joy's point, and she makes a good one, that i think the reality for the gop right now is it's no longer about the packaging. it really is about the substance -- >> it's a center right party back to your strong point. >> exactly. it's about the substance of the argument you have to make to the american people, and we can disagree or agree on whether the country is center right or center left, but the fact of the matter is we need to be whereve

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what he did in marco rubio, a perfect study of what he specializes in. take a guy latino. say to latinos, look at this guy, he's brown like you. when he starts to speak he has to say the same doctrine script, party line, against the dream act. marco rubio was for privatizing social security, remember that? he's for all the same stuff the american people are rejecting idea-wise but can put it in a nicer package. that's what jim demint has been trying to do. >> how do you say self-deportation in spanish? >> i don't think there's a term for it. >> i won't go there. i think, to joy's point, she makes a good one, i think the reality for the gop right now is no longer about the packaging. it really is about the substance of the argument. >> a center right party. >> the substance of the argument you have to make to the american people. we can disagree or agree whether the country is center right or center left, we have to be where the country is the speed spot o speed -- sweet spot. >> can i give you advice? run chris christie. christie against clinton, one person very polite and the ot

. >>> plus, a big night for paul ryan and senator marco rubio. did they just make a big announcannouncement? announcannouncement? you'll hear it for youououououou [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actual like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. offering some of our best values of the year. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. >>> the senator is blasting president obama for his handling or lack of handling of the fiscal crisis. senator is warning it's increasingly clear that the president is comfortable going off the cliff. he joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thanks for having me. >> so you thin

. >>> plus, a big night for paul ryan and senator marco rubio. did they just make a big announcannouncement? you'll hear it for yourself. >>> the senator is blasting president obama for his handling or lack of handling of the fiscal crisis. senator is warning it's increasingly clear that the president is comfortable going off the cliff. he joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thanks for having me. >> so you think the president is comfortable or does he want to go off the cliff? >> well, he's being advised to go off the cliff. howard dean has said it. papatty murray said they shouldo over the cliff. i think the president sees a political victory for his party if they go over the cliff. i know republicans are concerned that there's going to be a second recession if we go over the cliff. >> what does he gain from going over the cliff? >> well, taxes go up on everyone which gives the president lots of additional money to spend on new government programs. additionally, he has all these military cuts that many liberal democrats have been hoping for for years. the third thing is

caving, he stands up. he's been involved in a lot of interparty fights. most successfully, marco rubio. he beat charlie crist in a primary and one of his biggest failures is christine o'donnell. he's not afraid to get into the mix and we -- he didn't want to be here much longer. he was going to be out in 2016 so he was ready to go. you're right, the question is what does he do with this new position? use it to positive agenda? tell america what we stand for or, as many republicans we all talk too are worried about is he's going to use that perch to punish republicans who don't tow the tea party agenda. gwen: what is the tea party? we saw that with dick army and paid a lot of money basically to go away. we've seen a lot of shifts and moves. jim demint's departure from the south carolina senate seat races the question of who replaces him? >> right, and there's a tea party governor whom he elected and there's a lot of talk she should pick tim scott for that seat. also a tea party candidate and he's african-american. what a great opportunity. that i got criticized for not diversifying and anyb

getting comfortable in it. he's leaving a pretty impressive legacy behind. marco rubio. i don't know that he loved it all that much in the first place. this seems like a much better fit. >> republicans who are feeling pressured by the possible primary challenge. >> senator lindsay graham is one. how does this impact his prospects? >> lindsay graham has been a target for the right for some time. he's up in 2014. this is when that new senator appointed by governor haley would be up as well. part of this initially was good news if you're lindsay graham because conservatives are going to focus on that senate seat instead of him. but if he chooses someone like tim scott, who everyone in the party likes, who'sed a adequately conservative, they're going to train their sites back on graham's seat. look, he's survived challenges before. he's very well-liked but again, it's a republican primary in a time when you're going to have so much energy. >> doesn't lindsay graham's behavior on the senate floor and his prominence in some of these issues, really taking on the administration suggest he's

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famous, marco rubio. he was backing marco rubio when established republicans were backing charlie crist. he says he can do more as an ideas now over at heritage, the oldest think tank on the conservative side. keep your eye on the governor of south carolina, she's a republican, it's up to her to pick a replacement to serve for two years who will she pick? that's what everybody wants to know. >> all right. thanks. >>> in egypt, opponents of president mohammed morsi are expected to take to the streets again. they were out in force last night in cairo chanting it was time for their president to resign. their anger was sparked two weeks ago when morsi granted himself sweeping powers. last night, morsi refused to rescind that decree, despite calls from proponents calling for him to do so. >>> the photographer who took a picture of a man standing on the subway tracks as a train approached insists he was trying to alert the driver of the train. that photo make it on the front page of the "new york post" it is sparking outrage. people are asking why the photographer did not do more to help the

what he did with marco rubio. a perfect study of what jim demint specializes in. you take a guy who is, himself, latino. you say to latinos, look at this guy. he's brown like you. but when he starts to speak, he has to say the same doctrine script and say party line. he has to be against the dream act. he has to be doctrine everything. marco rubio was for privatizing social security. he's for all the same stuff that the american people over and over again have rejected ideawise, but he can put it in a nicer package. that's what jim demint has been trying to say. >> how do you say self-deportation in spanish? >> i don't think there's a term for it. >> i won't go there. but i think to joy's point, and she makes a good one, that i think the reality for the gop right now is it's no longer about the packaging. it really is about the substance -- >> it's a center right party back to your strong point. >> exactly. it's about the substance of the argument you have to make to the american people, and we can disagree or agree on whether the country is center right or center left, but the fact of

was decidedly mixed. an early and enthusiastic backer of marco rubio, rand paul, ted cruz, pat toomey and mike lee, all elected to the u.s. senate. he also endorsed candidates including kr christine i'm not a witch o'donnell, todd legitimate rape akin and richard god intends for you to get raped mourdock. demint couldn't help himself on the way out giving speaker boehner one poke in the eye on the rush limbaugh show yesterday. >> i think it's safe to say boehner is not forcing either of you guys out, right? >> that's pretty true. might work a little bit the other way, rush. >> zing. is demint more of a threat to his party now he's outside the senate? as lbj famously said of jay edgar hoover probably better to have him inside the tent out, than outside the tent in. joining us is former chairman of the rnc, in a red sweater, msnbc contributor, the notorious michael steele. that is a fetching color for you, chairman. >> thank you. ho, ho, hey. >> chairman steele tell us what this departure means for the rnc? everybody is reading this differently. some saying tea he's going to become a th

after the election, there were two serious speeches this week by paul ryan and marco rubio at the american enterprise institute where they took on that challenge. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear, republicans must steer far clear of that trap. >> i have heard it suggested that the problem is that the american people have changed. that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people just want what my parents had, a chance. >> george will, i think marco rubio used the phrase, middle-class, more than two dozen times in that speech. >> yeah, usually the forgotten middle class and it's all we talk about. is the forten middle class. the republicans' problem is the national problem, the sense of stagnation among americans who are not on the ladder of upward mobility. right now, the widening disparities. health care costs and the cost of that which puts you on the ladder, the cost of college. in about four, five weeks, we are going to pass a milestone, a trilli

47% of the american people. here is senator marco rubio last night at the same event. >> now, i've heard it suggested that the problem is that the american people have changed. that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. there are millions of mario rubios across america today. they are not looking for a handout. all they want is a job that provides for their families. >> one man is standing by mitt romney. after listening to ryan and rubio's remarks, today rush limbaugh said this. >> one thing i will tell you is that what animated both these guys was romney's 47% comment. the republican party is running away from that. if the people of this country are not -- if a majority are not taught, educated, inspired, motivated to solve their own problems at least in part, nothing is going to change.ç the democratic party is always going to win. we are never going to come man deer the notion that we are the party of government. >> joining me now, msnbc political analyst